Why do people have issue with simple gallery?
Nov 30 15:08
it includes a non gpl-compatible image editor in the play store version and the simplemobiletools apps are all poorly written
Nov 30 15:23
Nov 30 15:37
> it includes a non gpl-compatible image editor in the play store version and the simplemobiletools apps are all poorly written
Lol playstore, written poorly - maybe, gallery works fine as a gallery app and not running into a single bug is nice
Nov 30 16:02
And if it is written poorly,youre welcome to commit some fixes to improve the "written poorly" parts
Nov 30 16:05
lol you asked why people dont like it bud
the entire app would have to be rewritten im sure
people care about illegal license violations
Nov 30 16:06
Those are bad i agree,i didnt know about them
Nov 30 16:07
you didnt seem to care when you first responded
Nov 30 16:15
Where did i specifically respond to the license violation? Lol playstore isnt my response to that
Please dont assume things about me
Nov 30 16:17
what was that a response to then?
Nov 30 16:18
Lol playstore is me laughing at the playstore
I dont use it and dont recommend people using it
Nov 30 16:19
> Those are bad i agree,i didnt know about them
This is me responding to that violation
Nov 30 16:20
Hope we settled this miscomunnication
Nov 30 16:21
No argumentive back and forth
And my reason for wanting to remove is their Simple Phone partnership
Nov 30 17:25
Yeh I was going to mention that also but didnt feel like typing it all out. If someone talks to me like that im not just going to take it and say nothing back. I was only trying to answer his question
Nov 30 17:29
> <@_xmpp_SkewedZeppelin=2fdivestos-mobile=40conference.konvers.me:matrix.org> And my reason for wanting to remove is their Simple Phone partnership
Why is that?
Nov 30 17:51
Are Tad and SkewedZeplin one and the same person?
oh, thanks very much, for everything
Nov 30 17:52
edgar.vincent, boycotts are fun, the claims are so trivial to check too, website says privacy phone, website loads facebook trackers...
Nov 30 17:53
I see, but is that partnership mentioned in the app itself?
and Simple Phone is their phone
the partnership is with Secure Group
there is a "Get Simple Phone" button in the app
Nov 30 17:54
hah it seems they replaced facebook with matamo
Nov 30 17:55
not to mention the price, the end of life device, the old versions
just a bad value
Nov 30 17:58
and this is the chip: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/mediatek/helio/mt6771
5 years old!
Nov 30 17:59
I quite like the Simple apps, myself. Don't really care about the Simple phone myself.
I really hope no one falls for that
idk if the simple mobile tools devs understands that what he's selling is pretty bad for what you're paying or not
but i really hope people don't waste their money on that
Nov 30 18:03
all the fdroid simple tool apps had a proprietary blob in them for months
lol i dont understand why you're gonna license as GPL when you wanna include a closed editor in the app
would've made much more sense to do MIT
Nov 30 18:04
either way, between the proprietary blob inclusions, the license violation, and the simple phone nonsense, those 3 reasons add up to wanting to remove the app
just need to find a viable replacement
Nov 30 18:06
at the same time, monetizing foss is hard, even with some paid versions of the apps
surely the idea of a phone was around
Nov 30 18:20
Secure Group likely approached Tibbi and from all looks they're a legit company
and he'll get some profit from it surely
it probably looked like a good deal in his shoes
can't fault him too much
Nov 30 18:21
But I've seen instances of him trying to market it by disparaging other projects....
Nov 30 18:26
it has been marketed hard
That's what makes me fear people will fall for it
Nov 30 18:27
especially because most people already trust their apps
vs some other no name privacy phone vendor
The dev called GrapheneOS "too extreme" and then proceeded to say something that he never clarified to this day about GrapheneOS causing "issues with apps that communicate with each other"
I don't think he ever replied when I asked him to clarify
Nov 30 18:28
yes, I saw that post
It's one thing to try to make a buck
are the simple apps bad now
what is a better gallery
Nov 30 18:29
But don't try to get ahead by saying stuff that's simply untrue
i like simple gallery because it's very much like the old quickpic
And then don't have the guts to reply when you're questioned
> <@grintea:nltrix.net> what is a better gallery
Aves is okay, but it's written in Flutter if that matters to you
their contract may prohibit them from responding
Nov 30 18:30
but yes, no need to make actually better projects look bad for your awful phone
> <@matchboxbananasynergy:matrix.org> Aves is okay, but it's written in Flutter if that matters to you
looking at the screenshots, i am not sure i will like it. i will give it a try though, not like it costs anything. thanks for the suggestion
> <@grintea:nltrix.net> are the simple apps bad now
imo Simple Gallery + GOS Storage Scopes is still okay. But in principle you should try to avoid Simple Mobile Tools apps if you are not keen on supporting the BS phone
i really like the old quickpic layout
Nov 30 18:31
I don't know of any better gallery app, but the rest of the apps are not worth using anyway imo
simple gallery basically stole the old quickpic UI/UX, which is great because quickpic became dogshit
> <@wj25czxj47bu6q:arcticfoxes.net> I don't know of any better gallery app, but the rest of the apps are not worth using anyway imo
yeah i only use simple gallery
yeah i only use simple gallery from the simple suite
It would be nice to get a new proper gallery app written in Kotlin, with Material You and everything
Nov 30 18:32
Website claims degoogled
> Simple Phone uses microG as a replacement for Google Play Services. All the features you need, minus the spyware.
what about those proprietary libraries in all the apps? and the safetynet downloads? and all the connections to Google?
Nov 30 18:33
still no source code either
Accuracy doesn't matter when you've got **MARKETING**, baby!
Nov 30 18:34
>minus the spyware
>client connects to google anyway
yes makes sense
Won't the OS be on Android 11 or anything?
obviously the client itself being open source is the problem, not the fact that the data is transferred to google
I remember reading about that somewhere
but that might be wrong
> SimpleOS, powered by Lunar Open Mobile Platform (Based on Android 11)
Lol, he still hasn't replied to me 6 days later
He was hoping to be able to say stuff that makes absolutely no sense and nobody there to challenge it
Nov 30 18:35
Old outdated soc/software - not a great look
>GrapheneOS is way too extreme, it even creates issues when apps communicate with each other.
Sir pls explain
at least the shit phone Brax sells is two years newer?
Nov 30 18:36
So 3 y/o?
>SimpleOS isn't that hardcore, that's why we even chose to include microG.
Imagine his users' surprise when they figure out how incomplete MicroG app compatibility is
The Android alt OS space is filled with people trying to take advantage of people who don't know any better
That's why I appreciate Tad tbh
He's not out to deceive people, he tells it like it is, even if it means telling people to use something other than his OS
Nov 30 18:37
correction Murena Phone, Brax Phone, and Simple Phone are all the same chip
> The Mediatek Helio P60 is an upper mainstream ARM SoC for smartphones (mainly Android based) that was introduced in early 2018.
Nov 30 18:38
aren't they all using the same phones pretty much
Nov 30 18:39
> Mediatek Helio P60
> (Mediatek Helio P60)
Slogan - "we sell you an outdated phone with an outdated os for a reasonable price"
I think I confused it with the teracube that has a newer chip
matchboxbananasynergy!: pretty much
"Only the price isn't reasonable"
Reasonable for them,not the customer
You can get a 6a for that much
Nov 30 18:40
The fact that you can get a Pixel 6a for the same price as this simple phone
and people will choose to buy this anyway
it hurts me deeply
Yeah,its just dumb
matchboxbananasynergy!: actually aves is looking pretty great, the albums section is decently close to the old quickpic design. i will use this the next few days to see if it's usable enough to replace simple gallery
Nov 30 18:48
yeah flutter is pretty bloat but i do like aves
Nov 30 18:52
They seem to have a memory corruption bug, perhaps, that was recently uncovered by hardened_malloc
The fix was to push the version with the bug on the play store and make "Aves Libre
The fix was to push the version with the bug on the play store and make "Aves Libre"
That fixes it
Nov 30 18:58
Can read about it here: https://github.com/deckerst/aves/issues/398
Nov 30 18:59
shouldn't the shader issue be reported upstream?
Nov 30 19:11
Probably? Not sure
i am running aves libre, so i guess it's fine
Nov 30 19:14