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Edward Snowden

Chapter 11

In which TheAnonymouseJoker (TAJ) appears, and asks for more details on what was said about him. Micay supporters immediately call for silencing and banning. There is some discussion of transcripts availability. Micay defenders say he didn't mention the name first; in truth Micay suggested it in an obvious way, without explicitly saying it.

theanonymousejoker:
https://upload.yax.im/upload/1Oj4WSUEeNF-80D3/IMG_1131.jpg
Nov 30 09:35

SkewedZeppelin: I heard that this was discussed about me in the last couple days, 28-29 November 2022, regarding alleged sockpuppets of me, and Micay apparently accusing me of being some kind of "ringleaders of the harassment" club. May I know more about the matter, including these public messages?
Nov 30 09:37

Poison Ivy:
Oh this guy again

This guy has been harassing GrapheneOS devs and other projects for YEARS
Nov 30 10:41

Especially on Reddit and Lemmy

SkewedZeppelin: would be great if you just ban him
Nov 30 10:42

theanonymousejoker:
Poison Ivy: I came here because somebody lacks the balls to confront me and plants my ghosts in some chatrooms, and I got hold of that information. It is not nice behaviour for anyone to be a sewer rat. Also its okay if you hate me, I did not come here for you or to seek your permission.
Nov 30 10:44

thecast:
lol
Nov 30 10:45

he actually said he thought it wasn't you
Nov 30 10:46

Poison Ivy:
I think we all know you got pretty much rekt on reddit and Lemmy mate
Nov 30 10:49

CryptGoat:
i REAAAALY dont want all this GraphenesOS drama in this room
Nov 30 11:03

dlnb:
How old are you people? Zip it about daniel/gos, nobody cares or wants to hear it

Want to be a troll who bullies people? Back to reddit/twitter u go
Nov 30 11:04

theanonymousejoker:
Poison Ivy: good if you think so, that is why Micay goes around on twitter tweeting bullshit about me (https://archive.is/R0vzs), and "some" users go around on discord, telegram, matrix and reddit shit talking me, and even youtubers doing the same, while I do not give two hoots.
It is funny how hypocritical it looks when they all use these anti privacy soapboxes to scream baseless nonsense all day to maintain their fragile faux sense of superiority, and then go on screaming around about "ringleaders of the harassment" club and "character defamation" or whatever, projecting everything onto their targets.
Nov 30 11:07

Tommy:
> <@_xmpp_CryptGoat=2fdivestos-mobile=40conference.konvers.me:matrix.org> i REAAAALY dont want all this GraphenesOS drama in this room

this extends beyond just grapheneos
Nov 30 11:08

theanonymousejoker:
I saved this idiot from being harassed by CopperheadOS CEO, but its okay, I do not care about the rest. What looks like BS will be countered by me. Do whatever whoever wants to.
Nov 30 11:09

Tommy:
he just spams a bunch of non-sense in a bunch of reddit, giving harmful advice

matchboxbananasynergy!:
Man, y'all should respect the project and stay on topic

Tommy:
and stir shit up with other projects like privacyguides too

theanonymousejoker:
I see Mister privsec blog, former PG mod, is back in action.

dlnb:
Can you read the name of the channel?
Nov 30 11:10

Tommy:
just saying

I'd like to see him banned

theanonymousejoker:
I am the sweet, sweet nectar that brings all the honeybees swarming lol

thecast:
he's the one who brought it here we're just responding

matchboxbananasynergy!:
> <@_xmpp_theanonymousejoker=2fdivestos-mobile=40conference.konvers.me:matrix.org> I see Mister privsec blog, former PG mod, is back in action.

Lol, brother you're obsessed if you know that I am a former mod. Are you following me? Keep your shit away from Tad's project and behave like an adult. Jesus

thecast:
i came here for legitimats divestos discussion
Nov 30 11:11

Tommy:
I think he's talking about me not you

but w/e

matchboxbananasynergy!:
I'm not interested in talking to you further, just in case you try

theanonymousejoker:
matchboxbananasynergy!: no, Tommy aka borisgrishenko

Also you were one iirc

Tommy:
I'd just wait for tad to come online
Nov 30 11:12

theanonymousejoker:
I hope for answers to this, since I dislike this behaviour behind the back
> https://upload.yax.im/upload/1Oj4WSUEeNF-80D3/IMG_1131.jpg
> SkewedZeppelin: I heard that this was discussed about me in the last couple days, 28-29 November 2022, regarding alleged sockpuppets of me, and Micay apparently accusing me of being some kind of "ringleaders of the harassment" club. May I know more about the matter, including these public messages?
Nov 30 11:14

dlnb:
You came to a divestos channel to spout offtopic claims that is between u and daniel, really?

Are you ok?
Nov 30 11:15

theanonymousejoker:
dlnb: More like what happened in this very chatroom 2-3 days ago.
Nov 30 11:16

SkewedZeppelin:
theanonymousejoker: Micay didn't mention you

dlnb:
Exactly

SkewedZeppelin:
And that topic is settled

theanonymousejoker:
I am the moniker "TAJ"

SkewedZeppelin:
Please stay on topic

theanonymousejoker:
did you even read the screenshot you posted?

matchboxbananasynergy!:
Tad, brother, you're not gonna reason with this person...
Nov 30 11:17

dlnb:
Contact daniel over DMs to settle your beef and keep this channel ontopic please

theanonymousejoker:
I would like to be able to review what messages went on at that time, since that concerns me. That is all.

I do not have any beef to settle with him, as I said above I do not give two hoots about it.

SkewedZeppelin:
theanonymousejoker: you were not the context in that message

Please cut it out
Nov 30 11:18

theanonymousejoker:
https://upload.yax.im/upload/1Oj4WSUEeNF-80D3/IMG_1131.jpg
The entity "TAJ" in here is my initials
Nov 30 11:19

There exists no other "TAJ" in the privacy space on the entirety of internet or darkweb
Nov 30 11:20

SkewedZeppelin:
theanonymousejoker: they were saying someone else *wasn't* you

Again cut it out or leave

If you want to stay here keep to the topics
Nov 30 11:21

theanonymousejoker:
I heard that someone was claiming that that was me, and I would just like to see which user(s) made that claims and/or their messages. I have no other request.
Nov 30 11:22

matchboxbananasynergy!:
That's not what you came here for, you started talking shit about Daniel the moment you arrived

Take your bullshit elsewhere

Respect Tad's project
Nov 30 11:23

SkewedZeppelin:
theanonymousejoker: whatever is in MAM is what you get
Nov 30 11:24

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theanonymousejoker:
And the MAM history is limited for some bizarre reason. That is why I ask for the information since you own this chat.

risen:
SkewedZeppelin: Wasn't there a link to the matrix transcript?

SkewedZeppelin:
theanonymousejoker: it is automatically purged after backups

You have no right to mam
Nov 30 11:25

theanonymousejoker:
Then, text extraction from the backup logs?

thecast:
theanonymousejoker: im the one said it was you, but i never mentioned your name until SkewedZeppelin guessed it

SkewedZeppelin:
theanonymousejoker: backups don't store mam

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risen:
> SkewedZeppelin:
> theanonymousejoker: whatever is in MAM is what you get
Not sure what privacy policy says, but clearly you kept backups for search. Better shred before shit gets more real. :)
Nov 30 11:28

Except matrix is forever. Lol
Nov 30 11:29

SkewedZeppelin:
risen: search is just client db

Incomplete and lacks many aspects
Nov 30 11:30

risen:
Seriously, if anyone has that matrix transcript link, please post it again
Nov 30 11:31

SkewedZeppelin:
I don't know if view.matrix.org records bridges

Tommy:
> <@_xmpp_SkewedZeppelin=2fdivestos-mobile=40conference.konvers.me:matrix.org> I don't know if view.matrix.org records bridges

it records whatever matrix.org sees iirc

but im pretty sure it also does redaction
Nov 30 11:39

SkewedZeppelin:
well yes it probably records it

but it isn't listed on search at least
Nov 30 11:40

theanonymousejoker:
Once something is on internet, it is recorded forever.
Nov 30 11:41

Tommy:
btw search is not client cache

search is homeserver cache

you can search whatever states your homeserver stores
Nov 30 11:42

theanonymousejoker:
Also if something can be recorded, it will be recorded and it will be redistributed. This is a key law of internet.

SkewedZeppelin:
theanonymousejoker, yea hold on let me just give you a shell to my nas

you're welcome here if you want to contribute to the topics of DivestOS, Mull, and relations

but please keep this horseshit out of there
Nov 30 11:44

theanonymousejoker:
What is the horseshit? The stuff discussed 5-10 minutes ago has stopped.
Nov 30 11:45

risen:
I can confidently predict another tsunami is coming
Nov 30 11:46

theanonymousejoker:
Please share your detector tools with us.
Nov 30 11:47

risen:
Nope. Not taking the bait. Sitting on the sidelines for this one.
Nov 30 11:49

SkewedZeppelin:
Google Pixel has early tsunami warnings, doesn't it?
Nov 30 11:50

theanonymousejoker:
You need those Play Services packages or Google apps for it IIRC
Nov 30 11:52

risen:
Anything with barometer and Trail Sense. When the air is sucked from your room, a storm is coming. Set the phone down, it measures seismic

Plus emergency alerts if on cellular and those were tested working
Nov 30 11:54

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risen:
SkewedZeppelin, TAJ, I have some multi MB ceb files. How to convert to text with standard Debian app?
Nov 30 12:39

It's set to create text files too, but can't find those yet
Nov 30 12:40

SkewedZeppelin:
https://github.com/iNPUTmice/ceb2txt
Nov 30 12:41

risen:
/me considers consulting lawyer for chain of custody bla bla
Nov 30 12:42

theanonymousejoker:
risen:  https://github.com/Yuubi-san/ceb-tools
Or
https://github.com/inputmice/ceb2txt
Nov 30 12:43

There was one more method I forgot, to create JSON or CSV format out of CEBs, someone and I discussed it very long time ago

risen:
8 million apps in Debian but no ceb2txt.
Nov 30 12:44

darhma:
> 8 million apps in Debian but no ceb2txt.
It,s a java app I think you can just download it from https://github.com/iNPUTmice/ceb2txt/releases/tag/0.1.0
Nov 30 12:47

risen:
Thanks
Nov 30 12:48

But in all seriousness, I've got some PTSD just remembering. I may have to get someone else to read it
Nov 30 12:50

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